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How many return flights would you or your family book per year?
Poll ended at March 17th, 2010, 6:38 pm
0 0%  0%  [ 3 ]
1 1%  1%  [ 7 ]
2 9%  9%  [ 61 ]
3 11%  11%  [ 75 ]
4 22%  22%  [ 144 ]
5 7%  7%  [ 45 ]
6 13%  13%  [ 86 ]
7 2%  2%  [ 14 ]
8 9%  9%  [ 60 ]
9 0%  0%  [ 3 ]
10 12%  12%  [ 77 ]
15 3%  3%  [ 22 ]
20 10%  10%  [ 64 ]
Total votes : 661
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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 6:38 pm 
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Sign this petition by entering how many return flights you and your family would take between London and Lamezia. Enter the number of return tickets.

--UPDATED: How much would you pay for that flight? Answer the poll on:
http://www.incalabria.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2646--

This petition will be presented to the local airport authority and to regional politicians during March 2010 together with collected email and 2000 signatures from a 2007 petition.

ITALIANO
Firma questa petizione indicando quanti voli A/R userai nella tua famiglia ogni anno tra Lamezia e Londra. Indica il numero di biglietti acquistati.

--AGGIORNAMENTO: Quanto saresti disposto a pagare per un volo? Rispondi su http://www.incalabria.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2646--

Questa petizione sarà consegnato alle autorità aeroportuali e ai politici regionali durante il mese di Marzo 2010 insieme a email e 2000 firme raccolte nella petizione del 2007.

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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 8:11 pm 
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brrr - I just thoughtfully added a "0" option, and the first 50 votes are now lost. Those who voted and did not have that option can vote automatically again ....


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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 8:32 pm 
Great idea Dennis!

While we are waiting for direct flights an unbelievably cheap combination to get to Calabria on 2 flights in peak summer months is:

Easyjet fights from the UK to Milan Malpensa which are usually very cheap flights and then Alitalia from Milan Malpensa down to Lamezia which via their AirOne brand look to be very cheap too.

As Alitalia usually run numerous flights from Milan to Lamezia within one day, it makes it possible quite often to get the right gap between the connecting flights 2-3 hours is usually the ideal gap, not too long a wait but not so close for delays on the prior flight and therefore missing the next flight if the gap is too close.

We have just booked for our summer holidays 7 return flights to include; Easyjet to Milan and Alitalia to Lamezia either way including all charges, 4 suitcases, taxes and credit card charge for a total of £811, that's £115.85 per person return covering 2 flights either way in peak season! Other combinations were coming out at £1800 - £2,500, took lots of searching though!

Main thing is the Easyjet to Milan is a cheap flight and Milan to Lamezia with AirOne is also a cheap flight, this might bring Easyjet's flights to Lamezia from Milan in the summer months down, as fairly expensive at the moment.


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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 8:38 pm 
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Great news Alex, that's incredibly cheap! We found it convenient with Easyjet from Lamezia to Rome Fiumicino and then BA to Heathrow.

On this thread it is OK to vote and post as guest as many people who will be receiving the link are not necessarily forum members.


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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 8:59 pm 
we want flights from london to lamezia my husband and i and our family make at lest 14 flights a year to our apartement una Storey


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PostPosted: February 15th, 2010, 9:18 pm 
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Hi ,I have just signed the petition and selected 20. However last year the actual number was 28! that equates to 5 weeks occupancy by 4 people and 4 weeks occupancy by 2 people, it does mount up. Also when you take into account what the hire car companies will lose not to mention petrol stations, supermarkets restaurants bars shops tourist activities not to mention gelatria. A conservative estimate must be around 5000 euro between them all which the local economy in Calabria will be missing out on, all this from 1 apartment!!!Let us hope that some one decides to fly direct from London soon.


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 7:52 am 
Thanks Dennis

Great idea for petition again. Come on everybody, please sign.

I have also booked the same route as you Alex in June, and because I don't have any luggage, my cost was £104.00 per person all in.


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Thats strange, as I was logged in for that reply, but it logged be out !!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 8:10 am 
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I totally agree with Finally as when I consider what I spend when I go to Calabria if I include car hire as well, it all comes to a quite tidy sum plus when family are borrrowing my apartment who would not probably do so if they have to get 2 flights the figure is multiplied considerably I would be very suprised that if the local government was also given these figures on how much money is and will be spent in Calabria they don't put pressure on the airports and airlines to come up with a solution.

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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 10:54 am 
it's not just our flights, it is also the flights of our family and friends who will be visiting our apartment when we are not in calabria.

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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 11:50 am 
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Sign this petition by entering how many return flights you and your family would take between London and Lamezia. Enter the number of return tickets.

This petition will be presented to the local airport authority and to regional politicians during March 2010 together with collected email and 2000 signatures from a 2007 petition.

ITALIANO
Firma questa petizione indicando quanti voli A/R userai nella tua famiglia ogni anno tra Lamezia e Londra. Indica il numero di biglietti acquistati.

Questa petizione sarà consegnato alle autorità aeroportuali e ai politici regionali durante il mese di Marzo 2010 insieme a email e 2000 firme raccolte nella petizione del 2007.

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Hi,
We have an apartment near Pizzo and while we also are managing connecting flights via Milan we are finding it difficult to rent our apartment because there are no direct flights. We have had plenty of enquiries but then the feedback is that the lack of flights is a major problem so no bookings. I think this is a more serious issue than getting there ourselves because rentals lead to even more people needing flights and this isn't shown on your petition so will skew thefigures.
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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 1:31 pm 
when you are looking to buy a property number 1 box to tick is a direct flight to the area ,look at all the taxes the goverment in calabria have collected from people buying property, MRI and Medesa slogan 2006 to2008 buy where ryanair fly into, we wre told we would have great rentals


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 3:17 pm 
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Less than 24 hours later we have:

310 votes, good for
2341 return flights between Lamezia and London
723 pageviews
77 members in the FaceBook group: Low Cost to Lamezia

Not a bad start, let's try to keep the momentum!

Assuming that we do not all travel at the same time, and that there are 180 seats on the planes (737) we have enough people on board for 26 full planes ((2341x2)/180)=26. That means one a week from April to October.

Dennis.


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 5:07 pm 
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Well done, in such a short time.

But we need twice as many!

You have 2341 return tickets. So that transfers 4682 bodies. each plane return trip transfers 360 bodies (2 times 180 capacity). So that is 13 round trips for the plane. So one plane a week for 13 weeks.

Sorry about that! Suggest keep voting.


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 6:42 pm 
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TimJones wrote:
Well done, in such a short time.

But we need twice as many!

You have 2341 return tickets. So that transfers 4682 bodies. each plane return trip transfers 360 bodies (2 times 180 capacity). So that is 13 round trips for the plane. So one plane a week for 13 weeks.

Sorry about that! Suggest keep voting.



Hi I agree this is great what with Alex's efforts too they should both be applauded, and we should get some airlines interested!!! they would be foolish not to take notice, it would be nice if the same amount of people e.mailed Alex too. :D


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PostPosted: February 16th, 2010, 7:46 pm 
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Well said Happybunny.


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PostPosted: February 17th, 2010, 10:01 am 
These numbers are made up of buyers/investors who have bought here in Calabria from abroad.. lets not forget the thousands of Italians and other holiday makers who would love to use this service from round the globe who travel thru London and would like to visit the south of Italy at low cost prices... so there are many more flights possible and would most likely fill planes for 6 - 9 months ... the whole idea of low cost is to get as many bums on seats as possible .... one-way or return ... doesn't matter to them ...

Thnx Dennis
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PostPosted: February 17th, 2010, 10:27 am 
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Sorry to throw cold water on this, but...

Firstly, If I were a planner in an airline I would have considerably more sophisticated traffic planning tools than relying on requests from holidaymakers. It won't do any harm but I don't think it will do much good either.

More importantly, when you're doing the sums on the number of extra travellers, you're forgetting that these people are already getting there; often by buying four tickets per round trip on the same airlines.

What matters is the total increase in traffic for the airline and direct flights may actually reduce the numbers and the income.

So, if you want direct flights, stop flying there at all!


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PostPosted: February 17th, 2010, 11:25 am 
Hi there,
We live in Calabria all year round and are suffering from not having direct flights. On average we make a total of 12 - 15 return flights per year, and have relatives trying to visit us for another 12 - 15 return flights per year.
I really hope that your petition gets things to change.


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PostPosted: February 17th, 2010, 1:13 pm 
we go to calabria on average every six weeks and are desperate for direct flights (its been six very long months as weekends are not ideal when having to catch 2 flights!).


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PostPosted: February 18th, 2010, 12:34 pm 
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Hi Dennis. Reinstatement would be good but as we live in Rochdale a more central departure airport would be nicer even a flight from up north. We will sign it but if it is only from London perhaps a more civilised departure time might be suggested.
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PostPosted: February 19th, 2010, 6:30 pm 
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We too are from the North, but as we are petitioning for a direct flight from UK to Lamezia, where there is none at the moment, I don't think we are in a position to start saying which airport we want to fly from and what time of day the flights should be. I believe we should all concentrate on trying to reinstate a proven, well used, direct link between Stansted and Lamezia, and to let Dennis and Alex try and influence Lamezia Terme in any way they can with all our support.


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PostPosted: February 21st, 2010, 11:47 pm 
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Please see the below link which makes an interesting link to our Italian friends wanting to see London Lamezia re-instated, on an Italian forum talking about InCalabria's petition:

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... n%26sa%3DN

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PostPosted: February 22nd, 2010, 12:41 am 
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Did a bit of searching around, here are a few Italian forums we could get some votes from:

http://www.lameziaweb.biz

http://www.lameziaforum.it/

http://www.aviazionecivile.com/

http://www.abruzzoforum.com/forums/cala ... ocalabria/

http://www.forumjar.com/forums/Calabria

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forum ... in/899345/

http://www.calabriaforum.info/portal/fo ... ID=89&PN=1

http://www.vacanzecalabria.biz/forum/

http://www.topix.com/forum/it/calabria

http://www.calabriaonline.com/colmunity/forum/index.php

http://www.ilgiramondo.net/forum/calabria/

http://www.scalea.info/forum/index.php

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/italy- ... abria.html

http://www.votailprof.it/forums/univers ... -calabria/

http://www.calabrialiving.com/forum/forum/YaBB.pl

http://calabria.celiachia.it/forum.htm

http://reggiocalabria.forumattivo.com/

http://www.mycatanzaro.it/html/pagina/36/forum.html

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PostPosted: February 22nd, 2010, 7:40 pm 
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Hello everyone,
I'm glad i found a forum like this...
I am Calabrese, and as usual, desperate for something to happen.
I am happy that many of you are falling in love with Calabria, eventually, you might help us to correct all of the inefficiency of this beautiful forgotten place.
I will check the forum from time to time, see if any advice is needed from a "native" :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: February 22nd, 2010, 8:31 pm 
Ces,

Can you help get the word out to Italian forums to get our petition numbers up?

Thanks

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Hi guest, sure, I have noticed on the second post that there is a list of forums, I will register on the busiest ones, I will also share the facebook group on my personal facebook and try to make it go around.

As a friendly advice, we should kind of get the petition into someone's hand when it comes to politics down there.
Ideally, easyjet will appreciate the business potential, the ryanair flight was almost always full. But when it comes to authority, it's down to who we know, and not much who do we send the petition to. As you can realize by yourself, very little is done to open doors for easy travelling to and in Calabria. Anyway, I will give it a try, facebook being a great tool.


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Hi all,

we have now collected 570 votes good for 4047 return flights or 8094 flights.

So that would be nearly 45 full planes (180 seats), or 23 return flights which is near enough a weekly flight for half a year.

How much would you pay for that flight? Answer the poll on:
http://www.incalabria.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2646


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From http://www.live-pr.com/en/calabria-home-owners-in-action-r1048408539.htm

Petition for low cost flights to Calabria
Calabria home owners in action

24.02.2010 17:35:36 Many Calabria home owners have sprung into action to pressurise local government, airport authorities and low cost airlines to reinstate easy access to a popular destination.

(live-PR.com) - Many thousands of second home owners in Italy's southern region Calabria are infuriated by the unclear policy for low cost airlines to the Lamezia Terme airport.

They have bundled their efforts with a local developer, InCalabria Ltd, and set up an online petition - a repeat of the 2008 petition that collected thousands of signatures in a few weeks and perhaps led to the reinstatement of the flights.

March is the month that Calabrians go to the polls to elect a new regional government. It is within the power of this authority to invite and subsidise flights to the area and as such now is the time to get political attention.

How can you help? Go to http://www.incalabria.com and follow the link to the petition and select from the list how many return tickets your family would buy each year. The results will be bundled with the petition to make an easy cause.


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PostPosted: February 26th, 2010, 12:57 pm 
Direct flights from England and Ireland to Lamezia would benfit Tourism to Calabria ,you would get group tours 40 to 60 people staying in Hotels in the area, I was on a flight from Stansted last june with a group tour staying in Tropea.


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Would also be interested in getting flight direct from Dublin to Lamezia sorted.


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PostPosted: March 6th, 2010, 2:39 pm 
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I have been interviewed today by a journalist working for "Il Quotidiano" an Italian newspaper that will be publishing an article and my interview. They will also be contacting some members of the forum and our Facebook group for comments.

If you have an opinion as to why it will be good for Calabria to be served by low cost airlines, please publish it here - it may get quoted in other media too!

In my opinion, and this is what I said in the interview, low cost airlines are the 21st century's chosen form of transportation. Well connected airports such as Brindisi, Bari, Bergamo, Trapani and Ciampino have truly improved their regions by bringing year round business and tourism to the area's, but also by enabling the local population to travel and get about in the world! This should not be under estimated.

The possibility to get familiar with places such as London, Berlin and other cities is an important one for the young people of Calabria because it is them that will be running the Calabria businesses, hotels, restaurants and bars in the future.

Dennis (writing from London today)


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PostPosted: March 16th, 2010, 1:10 pm 
Any more news on direct flights from London to Lamezia,very expencive to get 2 flights to Calabria,


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Hello all,

we have sold 4500 virtual return tickets between Lamezia and London in the month that this action was started.

Today we will be presenting this and the previous petition to the airport administration.

Dennis.


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PostPosted: March 16th, 2010, 1:41 pm 
This is a very good result so far and lets hope it eventually leads to a positive outcome which i believe will happen,but it is important we all continue to exert as much pressure and encourage as much support as possible where ever it may be, it is for everyones mutual benefit Particularly Calabria who will benefit.


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The economic benefits from tourism in Calabria would improve with more direct flights. The British holidaymakers need direct flights to travel to calabria.


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PostPosted: March 19th, 2010, 7:33 pm 
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Hi,

Dont know how to viote but we are property purchasers in calabria and we need some cheap flights! may be 4 a year

Thanks

David/Lou Amusa Residencial C7


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Below is link to Facebook fans of calabria. 51,164 members. If we could get a large percentage of them to sign the petiition it would surely give us some clout

http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=qu ... 4756138..1


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It may be just me, but it is a bit funny.....


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if people new when they bought property in Calabria ,that they would have no direct flight, they would not have invested their money in Calabria


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Hi Ursla

I wouldn't be too sure about that,Ryan Air had only just started direct flights when we put down our deposit for the Collinetta, the fact that the only direct flights went from London actually put us off, I don't mind flying to Rome Milan or Naples from Liverpool and either spending a night there or getting the train to Lamezia, staying overnight in Italy beats Stanstead any day for me.

Cheers Diane


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We bought before there were any direct flights.


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PostPosted: April 3rd, 2010, 9:37 pm 
We were able to rent our apartement to family and friends when we had a direct flight . they are not interested when they have to get 2 flights to calabria, and 2 flights back


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PostPosted: April 4th, 2010, 11:25 pm 
The best time to travel is sunday for all the Irish comeing back from Lamezia to Piza and then on to Dublin ,Leaving lamezia at 12 oclock arrive Piza 1.15 and flight to Dublin 5 o clock / The one and a half between flights on week days is cutting it very fine


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PostPosted: April 15th, 2010, 3:31 pm 
Is there any more information on getting direct flights to Lamezia for summer months


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PostPosted: April 17th, 2010, 2:28 pm 
Anyone on the forum used Blue Express Rome to Lamezia price is 25 euro one way


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You will be pleased to hear that MeetingPoint UK is about to contract a weekly charter flight from London Gatwick - Lamezia on Saturdays commencing next Spring 2011 nd running through to November 2011. Watch out for further details!


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PostPosted: May 17th, 2010, 12:16 pm 
will this charter flight be available to everyone or is it just for the hotels in calabria ?


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If Aleniajealley post is a result of flying directly form London to Lamezia, unless Mr o@L takes drastic action to clean up his aircraft fleet I for one will never sign this Petition

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