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PostPosted: July 23rd, 2009, 9:11 pm 
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I am also owed money by G & L. does anyone know the Liability Insurance Company G & L use so we could lodge a claim againist for misrepresentation - Would the Law Society know? I am new to this forum and cannot believe so many have been mis-lead like us - obviously G & L will not tell us ? thanks - this is a great forum


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h1bby,
Perhaps you should read more carefully what I was saying.
As I said I have completed on my purchase and did not use GL or do I have anything to do with them
All I was trying to do was to communicate to Iain Buchan and shame him and his company to communicate with their clients.


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donstenk wrote:
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Donstenk I cannot seem to get to your fax received from Giambrone - link broken ?


http://www.incalabria.com/docs/faxjnQ3Z0.pdf


Just read the fax that was sent to you with interest. Gabrielle (I will refer to him as that, as according to the fax he sent, he doesn't seem to like the 'little shit' tag) states quite categorically (and underlines the main part to emphasise this) Quote-"WITH RESPECT, I HAVE NOT BEEN PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS". He insists on only truths being printed so here is a truth. You are a liar Gabrielle. I call him that simply because he tells lies. I can only think that he put that quote on the fax thinking perhaps you wouldn't publicise it. Good on you donstenk. Anyway, back to the liar Gabrielle Giambrone. I have written confirmation from him that he (was) handling my case as well as verbal confirmation from him personally. I have further written paperwork from his office that he was dealing with my case personally. For him then to state that he was not personally involved is a bare faced lie. As only the truth can be typed onto this forum, then that means that I can now share with all forum viewers that Iain Buchan and Gabrielle Giambrone are liars (although I suspect that most viewers will already have known that). I probably have no other way to prevent anyone taking up with these cowboys so will continue to post on this forum when I see any instances of claptrap being spewed from this crowd. YEEEEEEEEHA GEE GEE


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go get yourself another lawyer to try get your money back will make you feel better and take away some of the stress for you look around there's plenty of other good honest lawyers out there
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I am also owed money by G & L. does anyone know the Liability Insurance Company G & L use so we could lodge a claim againist for misrepresentation - Would the Law Society know? I am new to this forum and cannot believe so many have been mis-lead like us - obviously G & L will not tell us ? thanks - this is a great forum


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PostPosted: July 24th, 2009, 1:21 pm 
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Giambrone LLP had professional Indemnity insurance and i believe their insurers are AIG but i am not certain , but what i am 100% certain is that CMS Mackenna Law London and Bristol firm are acting for the insurers ( who evere they are ). CMS Mckenna are dealing with PI claims against Giambrone now !

Remember Giambrone LLP have closed down and their finances are being balanced. This is a company law requirement.

In my opinion AIG stand to lose a lot of Money as they will be paying out a lot of money through the negligence of Giambrone. I guess AIG will be paying CMS Mckenna their fees which are top CITY Law firm fees.

I hope this information is of help.


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PostPosted: July 24th, 2009, 1:30 pm 
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I am also owed money by G & L. does anyone know the Liability Insurance Company G & L use so we could lodge a claim againist for misrepresentation - Would the Law Society know? I am new to this forum and cannot believe so many have been mis-lead like us - obviously G & L will not tell us ? thanks - this is a great forum

Hi Birmingham,

The LCS/SRA established which insurance company were liable to pay my claim for fees, compensation and interest in relation to my complaint filed against Giambrone Law with the authorities. The "trigger date" was the key to finding out which insurance company was liable to pay (there has been some chopping and changing of insurers). In my case, it was the date of my formal complaint to the firm. If you are not intending to file a complaint with the LCS to recover your fees, compensation etc, then your new lawyer can contact the SRA for further advice.

There are many different Italian law firms and a number of English barristers dealing with the G&L fall out; IPLC, Roberto Viscomi, DeTullio, Metta, Zamiglaw to name just a few.

The Law Society will also give you details of specialist law firms dealing with professional negligence claims. http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/home.law or you can ring the LCS for advice

Their helpline details are:
0845 608 6565
Open Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.
(Calls to our helpline cost no more than 5p per minute for BT customers. Other networks' charges may vary)

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2009, 1:50 pm 
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Sportmo wrote:
I'm a little concerned that Iain has not posted anything since last Friday.

Has someone upset him? :twisted:

I keep checking the thread every day to have a giggle but to no avail. it seems he has gone off I a huff. :(

Oh well, the minute I get a whiff of a distinct bovine smell from the Med region, I’ll know he’s back online and it’s time for a laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mr Buchan,

In Mr Giambrone's timed and dated letter of earlier today to the hosts of this forum, he demanded the removal of this entire thread. However, you continue to correspond with it, and invite participants to communicate with you.

To remind you, his six demands were:
1/ Expunge supposed libels;
2/ Delete entire thread;
3/ A public apology;
4/ Not to repeat accusations;
5/ Reveal the identities of mailonsunday, lavendar, ionian, mags and deepsouth;
6/ The forum hosts to undertake to pay Mr Giambrone Euro 50,000 for damage to his reputation.

Could you clarify whether you would, in fact, like the thread removed and the payment of Euro 50,000 for Mr Giambrone's hurt, or whether you are happy instead for the forum thread to continue for the education and entertainment of all those interested in the Calabrian property market?

For good measure, could you clarify whether Mr Giambrone is also intending to sue the SRA for deciding to prosecute him (a verb that is, I'm afraid, their way of referring to this process)?


Mr Giambrone has been very clear in his requests in the private letter sent to the proprietor of this website.

I do not deem it necessary to repeat such requests.

To be honest, whilst I will continue to defend the firm I work for against these unfounded and defamatory comments, I prefer to do so in private, therefore, if any client wishes to contact me, please do so by private message or via email as previously advised.

Regards,

Iain Buchan

Unfortunately Sportmo (and others), this posting by user "IJB" means that he almost certainly will not be posting on this forum again, given his firm have issued a "pre-action" letter to Incalabria.

Shame really, I would have liked to have known whether Mr Giambrone was intending to sue the SRA.

I would recommend any users that are still instructing Giambrone Law, in whichever jurisdiction, to ensure they send their enquiries by EMAIL and not by PM. User "IJB" has made it clear in other posts that this is his own free time and therefore it may not constitute "formal correspondence" which you may need in the future.

For any members who are clients and have obtained "advice" in this way or by postings made by "IJB", I strongly recommend that you email the firm and formalise the advice.


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PostPosted: July 25th, 2009, 8:29 am 
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http://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicit ... 69.article


check this out...


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PostPosted: July 28th, 2009, 10:46 am 
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Has anyone raised their complaints about Giambrone/ Calabrian property developers with the Italian ambassador here in London?

The Italian authorities are extremely sensitive about the country's murky reputation. I would have thought any pressure would be beneficial to resolve issues surrounding existing developers in Calabria who are not fulfilling their contracts. If some are still trading - Bella Calabria? - then the situation for some buyers is not entirely hopeless.

Obviously, those with funds still in accounts controlled by Giambrone will have to await the professional and possibly criminal court cases that may now follow.


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PostPosted: July 28th, 2009, 11:33 am 
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hi
has anyone bought in villlagio angelo do anyone know if theres any problems there i saw some pics that wre taken earlier but have heard nothing of late as we have no lawyer at the moment i have no one to ask


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I’ve now had confirmation from the SRA that Mr Giambrone will have received details of the various breaches of the Solicitors Code of Conduct and Solictors Account Rules which will be presented to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.

The report issued on 20th February referred to in the control order considers concerns relating to the accounts of the firm, specifically but not limited to, the methods of conversion used from £ to € and vice versa and overcharging.

During my LCS investigation, Mr Giambrone was asked to confirm whether he had provided advice that my deposit monies were being held in a "non-interest" bearing account. He confirmed he was holding my deposit monies in an “interest bearing” account thus attracting interest on those monies.

With regard to the transfer of files to Italy, the SRA asked me to note that “whilst Mr Giambrone may make reference to a previous document from this office, a decision of the SRA was made in July 2009 to progress him to the tribunal”.

They were probably not aware on 1st September 2008 that the files had been transferred to the Italian office which has a “separate legal persona”. Without the clients ‘express and informed consent’ this would represent a breach of their clients confidentiality. As stated in the control order, “the Committee considered that the transfers were clearly not in the clients’ interests” so Mr Giambrone is in breach of at least one of his core duties set out in Rule 1 of the Solicitors Code of Conduct (http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/code-o ... 93.article) .

Therefore postings made by user “IJB” on behalf of Giambrone Law earlier in this thread and references made in the fax to Incalabria by Mr Giambrone can be said to be “grossly misleading” and that as stated by the SRA in their control order, Mr Giambrone is putting or is likely to put at risk the interests of clients.

Further information can be found at these two websites
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On a brighter note we have today signed for our apartment on AmusaMare we stayed with Giambrone and all went well it was completed on the day they said.It has been a very worrying time.now good hols to look forward to,best of luck to everyone hope all goes well! :lol:








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I’ve now had confirmation from the SRA that Mr Giambrone will have received details of the various breaches of the Solicitors Code of Conduct and Solictors Account Rules which will be presented to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.

The report issued on 20th February referred to in the control order considers concerns relating to the accounts of the firm, specifically but not limited to, the methods of conversion used from £ to € and vice versa and overcharging.

During my LCS investigation, Mr Giambrone was asked to confirm whether he had provided advice that my deposit monies were being held in a "non-interest" bearing account. He confirmed he was holding my deposit monies in an “interest bearing” account thus attracting interest on those monies.

With regard to the transfer of files to Italy, the SRA asked me to note that “whilst Mr Giambrone may make reference to a previous document from this office, a decision of the SRA was made in July 2009 to progress him to the tribunal”.

They were probably not aware on 1st September 2008 that the files had been transferred to the Italian office which has a “separate legal persona”. Without the clients ‘express and informed consent’ this would represent a breach of their clients confidentiality. As stated in the control order, “the Committee considered that the transfers were clearly not in the clients’ interests” so Mr Giambrone is in breach of at least one of his core duties set out in Rule 1 of the Solicitors Code of Conduct (http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/code-o ... 93.article) .

Therefore postings made by user “IJB” on behalf of Giambrone Law earlier in this thread and references made in the fax to Incalabria by Mr Giambrone can be said to be “grossly misleading” and that as stated by the SRA in their control order, Mr Giambrone is putting or is likely to put at risk the interests of clients.

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On a brighter note we have today signed for our apartment on AmusaMare we stayed with Giambrone and all went well it was completed on the day they said.It has been a very worrying time.now good hols to look forward to,best of luck to everyone hope all goes well! :lol:








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I’ve now had confirmation from the SRA that Mr Giambrone will have received details of the various breaches of the Solicitors Code of Conduct and Solictors Account Rules which will be presented to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal.

The report issued on 20th February referred to in the control order considers concerns relating to the accounts of the firm, specifically but not limited to, the methods of conversion used from £ to € and vice versa and overcharging.

During my LCS investigation, Mr Giambrone was asked to confirm whether he had provided advice that my deposit monies were being held in a "non-interest" bearing account. He confirmed he was holding my deposit monies in an “interest bearing” account thus attracting interest on those monies.

With regard to the transfer of files to Italy, the SRA asked me to note that “whilst Mr Giambrone may make reference to a previous document from this office, a decision of the SRA was made in July 2009 to progress him to the tribunal”.

They were probably not aware on 1st September 2008 that the files had been transferred to the Italian office which has a “separate legal persona”. Without the clients ‘express and informed consent’ this would represent a breach of their clients confidentiality. As stated in the control order, “the Committee considered that the transfers were clearly not in the clients’ interests” so Mr Giambrone is in breach of at least one of his core duties set out in Rule 1 of the Solicitors Code of Conduct (http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/code-o ... 93.article) .

Therefore postings made by user “IJB” on behalf of Giambrone Law earlier in this thread and references made in the fax to Incalabria by Mr Giambrone can be said to be “grossly misleading” and that as stated by the SRA in their control order, Mr Giambrone is putting or is likely to put at risk the interests of clients.

Further information can be found at these two websites
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dottie wrote:
On a brighter note we have today signed for our apartment on AmusaMare we stayed with Giambrone and all went well it was completed on the day they said.It has been a very worrying time.

Let's just hope then dottie that your development is not one which could be subject to civil or criminal investigation in the future, that all the relevant details were in the final deed of sale and that your best interests were catered for in terms of completion of the interior decoration, pool, landscaping, utilities, management fees, all of which I understand are not as yet formally resolved on this development.


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PostPosted: July 29th, 2009, 12:52 pm 
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This is a hard post to phrase so I apologise for anyone who gets upset at reading, but now people are completing and then being told that all things may not be well with the development, permits contract liabilities etc., could we have a thread itemising those developments with which some people think there are still problems?
I feel for those who have completed and then told there are still problems in some peoples opinion.

One important point, all this negativity may be putting off prospective purchasers and it may be some developments need more purchasers to enable them to be finished?


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Ionian wrote:
This is a hard post to phrase so I apologise for anyone who gets upset at reading, but now people are completing and then being told that all things may not be well with the development, permits contract liabilities etc., could we have a thread itemising those developments with which some people think there are still problems?
I feel for those who have completed and then told there are still problems in some peoples opinion.

One important point, all this negativity may be putting off prospective purchasers and it may be some developments need more purchasers to enable them to be finished?


Ionian, I being a contributor of "negativity" totally agree with your comments etc. However what we did find strange was that everytime we visited IC and sat in their offices demanding to know what was happening with our development, they kept offering us any apartment in any development that was not completed we wanted. (We had picked the dearest apartment on our development by the way) We found this very strange, that either we were being given somebody elses apartment (which I have to say appears to be the case in San Rocco as we were offered top floor apartments) or the developments were not sold out.


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Ionian,this too is a hard post to phrase but hear goes,don't get upset.
Buyers I'm sure,that put hefty deposits down on property in Calabria did
so as I did because they fell in love with the place and the warmth of its
people. It is not due to any wrong doing on our part that we were conned out of our money.
Why are you of the opinion that the TRUTH is "NEGATIVITY",yes it is NEGATIVE what is happening with some developments in Calabria and I
have to disagree and think its quite reckless when you say that "it's someone's opinion" or "that some people THINK there are still problems"
when clearly there are big problems coming to light on developments
after completion.
Some people adopt the attitude of "I'm alright Jack" but others have a conscience,as in forewarning people is forearming them. I think that
prospective buyers would only thank the forum for highlighting these
pitfalls,no matter what thread its on.


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Oh 'what a tangled web we weave....' Goodness me! It seems to be becoming a slippery slope, where there certainly seems to be the need to maintain the status quo.

Personally, I had absolutely no dealing with either G&L or IC.

Certain dirty laundry should not be aired out in public (including the internet)...the way I see it. And, I have to uphold the philosophy that each is entitled to their opinion, without fear of reprimand or retribution.

No 'feelings' here on this particular matter, but rather observations.

Shutting people out because their opinions differ should never be an option!

Censorship has perhaps gone just a little too far. I cannot blame the G&L for attempting to defend themselves (regardless of their failures/activities). Can't blame anyone for trying. Sometimes it takes shear nerve or a massive need to defend one's point of view and/or livelihood.

From where I sit, at the present time, I see '6 of one and half a dozen of the other'. That's my opinion. Then again, I don't really have an opinion on this one...just an impression/observation, irregardless of how it might seem.


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Oh 'what a tangled web we weave....' Goodness me! It seems to be becoming a slippery slope, where there certainly seems to be the need to maintain the status quo.

Personally, I had absolutely no dealing with either G&L or IC.

Certain dirty laundry should not be aired out in public (including the internet)...the way I see it. And, I have to uphold the philosophy that each is entitled to their opinion, without fear of reprimand or retribution.

No 'feelings' here on this particular matter, but rather observations.

Shutting people out because their opinions differ should never be an option!

Censorship has perhaps gone just a little too far. I cannot blame the G&L for attempting to defend themselves (regardless of their failures/activities). Can't blame anyone for trying. Sometimes it takes shear nerve or a massive need to defend one's point of view and/or livelihood.

From where I sit, at the present time, I see '6 of one and half a dozen of the other'. That's my opinion. Then again, I don't really have an opinion on this one...just an impression/observation, irregardless of how it might seem.



We're all entitled to our opinions, but only a (thankfully in my case 'ex') G&L client could possibly understand what it's like to deal with this company. Truly a once in a lifetime experience. I guarantee it never has, nor ever will happen to me again.


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I certainly DO understand Park1. I do, I do.


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Trigger, always interesting to read your posts however on this one you have no idea what you are taling about. I have just had notification on my complaint from the ajudicator and for me to get a complete affirmation that all my issues are valid and that the law firm are guilty of a number of failings is proof enough that it certainly is not 6 of one and half a dozen of another. For all of us who have lost money and for some, a considerable amount of hard earned money, this judgement on G&L is simply a very small way to get some satisfaction and acknowledgement that we were in fact dealing with a lawyer that simply took advantage of his postion of trust and has used that to seperate people from their money and their dreams. We can all hope that organisations like the SRA can do thier job and put this man in his place.


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I know I have the right to my own opinion on posts, to state my observations, which I was clearly referenced.

Please...... re-read the post, it says nothing about not empathizing with anyone who got fleeced by G&L. Hope you can see and understand this. None of us are here to be the object of any transference of anger :roll:


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Trigger, always interesting to read your posts however on this one you have no idea what you are taling about. I have just had notification on my complaint from the ajudicator and for me to get a complete affirmation that all my issues are valid and that the law firm are guilty of a number of failings is proof enough that it certainly is not 6 of one and half a dozen of another. For all of us who have lost money and for some, a considerable amount of hard earned money, this judgement on G&L is simply a very small way to get some satisfaction and acknowledgement that we were in fact dealing with a lawyer that simply took advantage of his postion of trust and has used that to seperate people from their money and their dreams. We can all hope that organisations like the SRA can do thier job and put this man in his place.


Good! I trust SRA will put him in his place...because I can't. Keep up the communication with them.


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Hello all, long time no speak/hear! Have just got back from my hols and have spent the last 2 hours reading the 12 pages under this thread. MY GOD the world - and most certainly IJB - has gone stark staring bonkers. :shock: :

What on earth is the man thinking of? His lengthy diatribes/rantings/excuses really do him and his firm no favours whatsoever. In my opinion they merely serve to infuriate even further those poor people who had the misfortune to appoint them in the first place.

From the day this forum started back in May 2007 the CalabriaHomes forum and InCalabria Ltd has championed the right of free speech and invited each and every single person to share their own personal views/experiences (Good and bad) wherever they have bought and just as importantly, through whomever they have bought. We weren't proud. We weren't precious. And we most certainly were not vindictive or insulting to our peers or competitors working in this beautiful region. We've had some sticky experiences along the way thanks to certain people and I honestly believe that the fact they are all jumping up and down now and throwing their toys out of the pram, serves only to prove they've been caught with their pants down.

Keep going everyone in your fight to get your money and your homes back. I just feel hugely saddened to be reading all of this and sincerely wish you all well.


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Trigger you are certainly entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to defend their position, but when people/companies/firms are obviously in the wrong (proved by ongoing investigations) they make matters far worse by protesting their innocence and trying to censor those and the forums where they have the opportunity to air their concerns.

They should not be encouraged to do so, but should should spend all of their time trying to rectify their mistakes not trying to hide them.

Furthermore I find your comments regarding 'Certain dirty laundry should not be aired out in public (including the internet)' somewhat at odds with some of your postings on here, but there again who is to decide whose laundry is dirty and whose is clean?


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Going back to a concrete suggestion:

Ionian wrote:
... now people are completing and then being told that all things may not be well with the development, permits contract liabilities etc., could we have a thread itemising those developments with which some people think there are still problems?


Wouldn't be it useful to have a thread per development where the issues could be listed so that people completing could have a check-list of things that needed to be included / covered in their contracts so that they could check with their lawyers before completing?


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I was trying to be tactful and not be open to law proceedings from anyone! One threat a year is enough you know.

What I was trying to say, it is hard to see people saying I have completed and then someone coming on and saying oh good but....

I was trying to be constructive and not negative, something I have tried since I joined, I am certainly not saying I am alright Jack. I may come over frivolous at times as an alternative to all the doom and gloom we do get on here, some like it others not, I don't like the tone of some of the posts either!

I hope this forum continues after the problems are sorted, and they will be, but not quickly, but as it appears to be problems most of the time save for the odd thread ie. , one for the girls, I have serious doubts, which is a great shame as it is a fantastic place to share info etc.
I have been trying to give something to the forum not take all the time. How many guests do we have, I have been reading for awhile but not posting, how often do you see that, we need more people to post in a positive way rather than complaining or it will die.

Yours, sweltering in 30+ and not going to the beach until this pm as it is too d... hot.


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hi Ionian
i know where you coming from but i think when you open the thread for g&l it will be a doom and gloom unfortunately
but to be positive the info Ive got here keeps me sane and i have put it to good use
it would have taken me alot longer to figure out alot of things without peoples :D :D :D input on here so along side of all the negatively i am a very happy person to have gathered so much info so quickly thanks to this forum
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I was trying to be tactful and not be open to law proceedings from anyone! One threat a year is enough you know.

What I was trying to say, it is hard to see people saying I have completed and then someone coming on and saying oh good but....

I was trying to be constructive and not negative, something I have tried since I joined, I am certainly not saying I am alright Jack. I may come over frivolous at times as an alternative to all the doom and gloom we do get on here, some like it others not, I don't like the tone of some of the posts either!

I hope this forum continues after the problems are sorted, and they will be, but not quickly, but as it appears to be problems most of the time save for the odd thread ie. , one for the girls, I have serious doubts, which is a great shame as it is a fantastic place to share info etc.
I have been trying to give something to the forum not take all the time. How many guests do we have, I have been reading for awhile but not posting, how often do you see that, we need more people to post in a positive way rather than complaining or it will die.

Yours, sweltering in 30+ and not going to the beach until this pm as it is too d... hot.


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Thats an interesing post!!
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lis051 wrote:
... i think when you open the thread for g&l it will be a doom and gloom unfortunately


My idea was a thread for each development which looked at what terms or conditions should be in the contract, that would apply regardless of which lawyers.


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Think a thread with individual properties would be great idea.

have tried to start some threads on my property but have struggled to get an overview as to people who have bought along with me.

although always nice to get peopel views it takes the thread off track sometimes.

i have used g&l for contract & Italian connection for agent - but paid developer direct 50% SO NOW DONT KNOW WHERE START.

would be great to have direct contact with people who have bought in Sea Hills in Brancaleone - to see compare where we all stand.


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Interesting story on BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8178959.stm

It's about firms that pretend that they are operating in the UK and use a .co.uk website whilst their operation is actually elsewhere.


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Edwin Coe LLP has been following the situation in Calabria (Italy) that looks to have left thousands of property investors out of pocket.

Please follow the link below for further information and to register your details if you have been affected by this matter:

http://www.edwincoe.com/CalabrianPropertyDevelopments/default.asp


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Hi soo very confused & upset and not in any way confident .
Not sure where to turn .
Have read so much about people in the same situation as we are just trying to contact others on our development to gain information .
Please contact if you were hoping to purchace an appartment on the El caribe develpopment in Calabria .
Lost x :(


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have you done a search of the forum on your development? right hand box, not the top search.
You may be able to contact people in the same situation there. please remember the pm does not leave your out box until they log on again. Have you considered instructing new solicitors as recommended on the forum?
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Jules wrote:
Hi soo very confused & upset and not in any way confident .
Not sure where to turn .
Have read so much about people in the same situation as we are just trying to contact others on our development to gain information .
Please contact if you were hoping to purchace an appartment on the El caribe develpopment in Calabria .
Lost x :(



Dear Jules,

Please try copy and pasting the link below to your browser - you should then be able to view all the threads concerning El Caribe. Good luck!

Kind Regards

Sam

search.php?keywords=El+Caribe&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


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Hi All,

Have just come back from a lovely break at our new apartment in San Rocco (everything looking good to those interested) and saw the G&L poster still up at the departure gate at Lamezia. Got me thinking about the little fellow himself and I wondered if there had been any ruling on his case yet. Anyone heard anything?

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Hi All,

I wondered if there had been any ruling on his case yet. Anyone heard anything?


Gabriele Giambrone informed AIPP that he has appealed the SRA decision. He cannot appeal against the decision to prosecute at the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal, however he can appeal the control order. I've written to the Master of the Rolls to ascertain whether this information is true and whether there will be an effect on any hearing scheduled at the SDT although in my mind they are mutually exclusive events and so any appeal against the control order should not affect the date upon which the case is prosecuted at the SDT, in fact I would argue it should speed things up!


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Park1 wrote:
Mr Buchan

Just want to address a few of the statements in your posts of the last 24 hours:


ijb wrote:
Please address the facts, Giambrone Law are not accused of "defrauding" clients. The accusations are that we breached certain aspects of the Solicitors Accounts Rules in 2007.


What about the serious breaches of the Solicitors Code of Conduct 2007?


Park1, it does not appear that your question has been answered, perhaps now Mr Buchan has returned from his holiday he might respond for the benefit of his 2000+ clients some of whom are using this forum.


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Hi,
We have received a letter regarding Bella Calabria delay in Res. Amusa development and giving buyers 3 options with moving forward. Interestingly the two (one was other) meant more money to the Lawyer G&L which is outrageous as the developer should pay these. Anyway this is the first I have heard about them being prosecuted. Something is still there as we and I expect a number of others have this letter.

I am not sure about what to do with this and will wait with what they say about our options choice.
Eloise
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Ps. Hs anyone else replied to G&L about this?


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We have also received a letter from G&L advising us of the two options we have going forward. Development Villagio Angelo-completion according to Prelim. contract is Sept.-09 but have had no communication from vendor - Bella Calabria with regards to delay/revised completion date and neither have G&L according to them. This is what our Prelim contract states:
"The validity of this Preliminary Contract is subject to the completion of the construction of the properties within the date indicated within the preambles of this contract. This clause is to be construed as a resolutive clause under Italian law, as it is essential for the validity of this contract and in case it is not met the contract will be resolved ex tunc and the Vendor will be obliged to refund all sums paid by the Buyer until that date plus any legal interest accrued during the period. This clause can only be invoked by the Buyer in the event of a delay of completion by the Vendor, and therefore the Buyer will have the option of either seeking a full refund of all sums paid up to that stage plus any legal interest accrued during the period or to agree to a reasonable extension of the completion date." Don't think it's worth the paper it's written on!!!
G&L's 2 options are: 1) 750 Euros + IVA to G&L for them to draft & send an Addendum to the Prelim Contract with revised completion date - even though neither of us have had confirmation of when this will be!! 2) Rescinding the Prelim contract and if refund of deposit is not received begin legal proceedings which will cost thousands of Euros, take time and even if we win there is no guarantee we will get any money back as by the time the court proceedings are completed (in a few years time) the development will possibly be completed and the vendor/builder could have entered into administration - so no funds returnable and bank loan guarantee not valid as development completed. Very frustrating!!
G&L also states that they have been instructed by several other investors of Villagio Angelo to lodge a claim against the developer. Are any of you members of this forum?
Lastly, can anyone please inform me of how to claim my initial deposit of 3000 Euros back from my credit card company - This was paid to IC. What proof do I send them etc.?
I'll be very grateful of any advice on any of the above.


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there is a thread on getting your deposit back from credit cards on the forum, do a quick search and you will find the information and the experience of people on there. Good luck

there are a couple of threads about G & L too.


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Following the orders published by the SRA on 10th July 2009 Gabriele Giambrone appealed against the conditions they imposed on his registration. There has recently been some movement by the SRA and they have put some new information on their website entitled: Specific Outcome Agreed.

http://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicit ... elpoutcome

What does "agreed" mean?
"We are able to enter into agreements with those we regulate. Agreements are regulatory decisions made by us, the terms of which are accepted by the firm or individual. They are not the equivalent of settlement of a commercial dispute. Agreements may include, among other things, an agreement that a disciplinary sanction be imposed by us"

I am assuming that an "Issue Agreement" has been made given the control conditions appear to remain in force.


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We purchased an apartment at The Sands in Brancaleone and instructed Giambrone Law to act for us. At first, they we at the end of the phone whenever I wanted them. We paid our deposit and have the relevant paperwork, Contract, Fiscal Code and Bank Guarantee document. The development should have completed December 09, but due to bad weather the slippage went to June 2010. I assume this 'Act of God' will not cause a breach of contract? None of this was communicated to us by G&L. We heard via the company we used to view the property. We have telephoned G&L repeatedly and left messages for Brendan Dine or Ian Buchan and never get a reply. We have now heard via the same contact, that the Developer has lost his funding for the project. Since then I have been trying to get some information from G&L with no luck. Obviously after joining your forum and reading the blogs we are very concerned. Are our Bank Guarantees OK? Should we change our solicitor?


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I have just received an e-mail alert from ukdata.com advising of some developments at GL but not sure what to make of them:

E-mail below:

Company Details - GIAMBRONE LAW LIMITED
Registered No.06768376
(?)Address: 50 ESSEX STREET, THE STRAND, LONDON, WC2R 3JF
Tel: We do not list telephone numbers. Click here to search for a telephone number at 192.com
Type: Private Limited with share capital
Incorporation Date: 09-12-2008
Status: Active
Last Accounts Filed up to: -

Recent Changes:
22/01/2010 Credit limit change
22/01/2010 Risk score change




Reports:
Full Report (?)
A comprehensive report containing everything you need to know about the company.
£18.00


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Filed On Description Price Buy
02-02-2010 First notification of strike-off action in London Gazette (Section 652A) £18.00
20-01-2010 Striking off application by a company £18.00
09-12-2008 New Incorporation documents £18.00


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Furthermore, their is absolutely no allegation of "missing money" and the allegations refer to breaches of the Accounts rules with regards to the methods used to reconclie the client accounts. These incorrect methods were used in 2007 and Avv. Giambrone has since employed a firm of Chartered Accountants to provide the SRA with the information in the format they require.



Howard, you should contact your SRA caseworker to find out more about the information that Avv Giambrone will be providing to the SRA.


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Lavender wrote:
ijb wrote:

Furthermore, their is absolutely no allegation of "missing money" and the allegations refer to breaches of the Accounts rules with regards to the methods used to reconclie the client accounts. These incorrect methods were used in 2007 and Avv. Giambrone has since employed a firm of Chartered Accountants to provide the SRA with the information in the format they require.



Howard, you should contact your SRA caseworker to find out more about the information that Avv Giambrone will be providing to the SRA.


That has happened and the SRA have given me the result. Not good news i'm afraid. My case has now been concluded by SRA :cry:


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howard wrote:
Lavender wrote:
ijb wrote:

Furthermore, their is absolutely no allegation of "missing money" and the allegations refer to breaches of the Accounts rules with regards to the methods used to reconclie the client accounts. These incorrect methods were used in 2007 and Avv. Giambrone has since employed a firm of Chartered Accountants to provide the SRA with the information in the format they require.



Howard, you should contact your SRA caseworker to find out more about the information that Avv Giambrone will be providing to the SRA.


That has happened and the SRA have given me the result. Not good news i'm afraid. My case has now been concluded by SRA :cry:

Howard, I will send you a PM


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My SRA case files have now been closed and been passed to the Legal Department who are dealing with the referral to the tribunal.

The SRA's letter states: a few matters may be put forward as 'lead cases', the majority may be presented as supplemental information.

Has anyone else had their SRA files closed recently? I hear on the grapevine that the Italian Law Society is also currently taking action against Giambrone.

Relevant Information from the SRA website

The general process

"We prosecute cases before the tribunal, or we instruct an external solicitor to do so. We notify certain parties about the referral.

We collect further information as necessary and prepare a statement of allegations. We send this to the tribunal. If the tribunal decides there is case to answer, they will set a "pre-listing day" and notify you, serving you with copies of the statement and evidence. The pre-listing is an administrative procedure at which a final date and time estimate is decided."

Hearings are usually in public....The tribunal usually announces its decision immediately. Findings are released later and, in most cases, are then available to the public.

http://www.sra.org.uk/solicitors/enforc ... age#notify

The "pre-listing day" is set for 7th May 2010 in London.

The "pre-listing day" has been changed to 6th August 2010.


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